While Chris was away traveling the world, Jon got a tour behind the scenes at Veritas, a tool making company based in Canada’s Capital. From the first all metal lathe ever made to building CNC machines at home, this episode is all about tools.

• Control Plane We mentioned the macOS app, Control Plane, in the last episode, unfortunately it is no longer under active development
• Cycloid Drawing Machine An advanced take on the Spirograph, by Joe Freedman
• Making It Podcast A trio of makers talk about creativity, design, & making things with your hands
• Jacques de Vaucanson
• Vaucanson’s Metal Lathe A nearly 300 year-old machine that “made everything”
• James Watt Micrometer What is thought to be the world’s oldest surviving micrometer, reputedly crafted by James Watt
• The Perfectionists A book we talked about back in episode 23, that shares some parallels with the Vaucanson video above
• Lee Valley A much loved Canadian company, founded in 1978 by Leonard Lee, Lee Valley came up in our very first episode of Off Hours
• Veritas Tools Founded by Leonard Lee to craft products for Lee Valley, Jon recently got a tour around the manufacturing facilities of Veritas Tools in Ottawa
• Beamer Lasers Veritas employs a Beamer FXL22 to inscribe their tools
• Mitutoyo Precision measuring tools
• Mitutoyo Surftest A tool to objectively evaluate surface finish
• Surface Plate
• CMMs A look at an automated Coordinate Measuring Machine in action
• Maudslay’s Lord Chancellor A bench micrometer crafted by English Industrialist, Henry Maudslay
• Autocrib Small scale, automated inventory management employed by Veritas to help manage CNC bits & other small equipment
• Remstar A vertical carousel system for inventory management, particularly handy for small parts like those used in watchmaking
• WALL-E’s Wall A clip of WALL-E’s vertical carousel system in the Pixar film, WALL-E
• “Guns. Lots of guns.” The “inventory” scene from The Matrix
• Rolex 904L Stainless Steel This short video, now over a decade old, offers a brief glimpse into a small fraction of Rolex’s inventory system
• TE-CO Tour A a look behind the scenes at TE-CO with NYC CNC
• Terry Fox
• Tapmatic Deceptively simple, but effective tools that make quick work of tapping threads in a manufacturing environment
• Flexarm Maker of pneumatic tapping arms, like the ones Chris mentioned
• Busy Bee Tools
• Walther-Trowal Makers of industrial scale tumbling polishers
• Haas
• Fanuc
• Matsuura
• Hurco
• Göckel
• Makerspace North Chris gave a talk, alongside Rich Loen, on how to make your own CNC machine recently at Makerspace North

Backpacks—an unsolvable problem. Chris has an unexpected run-in with some surrealist art, followed by a discussion of dealing with the realities of travel.

• Masters of Contemporary Watchmaking An additional book highlighting the work of independent watchmakers, that we ought to have mentioned in Episode 27
• Watchmakers The Masters of Art Horology A book Chris picked up recently that catalogues the work of modern independent watchmakers
• 12 Faces of Time The 12 Faces of Time details the lives and works of a dozen of the foremost independent watchmakers of our era
• Engine Turning Chris demonstrating the art of engine turning
• Geometric Chuck A paper about geometric chucks which are simplified versions of the full engines used in security printing.
• Matthews Documentary A trailer for the engine turning documentary featuring Martin Matthews
• MoMA SF Official website of the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
• René Magritte Chris caught a temporary exhibit of the work of surrealist artist, René Magritte, while on layover recently in San Francisco
• Steven Strang Local artist & friend of the show whose work is similar in genre to Magritte’s
• Magritte’s The Human Condition
• Magritte’s The Promenades of Euclid
• Thomas Crown Affair A film that prominently features Magritte’s Son of Man
• Banksy Shredded Art Video of a Banksy painting being shredded the moment after the hammer came down for the winning bid at auction
• Gerhard Richter Another of the artists on display at MoMA SF
• XKCD A perfect encapsulation of the woes of shopping for a backpack

• Osprey Bags One of Jon’s favourite backpack brands over the years
• Mountain Hardwear Frequent Flyer 30 Jon’s most recent everyday backpack
• How to Knock Off a Saddleback Leather Bag
• Flight Bag The bag Chris uses most
• Peak Design Everyday Backpack 30L Chris’ current backpack of choice
• Packing Cubes A handy way to keep things organized when packing for travel
• Superior Labor Leather Pen Roll The roll Chris uses to hold pens & a watch when travelling
• Lightning to SD Card Reader A useful adaptor for transferring photos from an SD card to an iOS device
• High Watt USB-C Charger While still far from being a perfect universal spec, one nice thing about USB-C is being able to carry a single, high-watt charger rather than multiple, different chargers when travelling
• USB-C to Lightning A cable that allows an iPhone or iPad to be charged using the same charger that now ships with Apple’s MacBooks
• Anker PowerCore Jon & Chris both use Anker’s battery packs to keep devices topped up when travelling
• Control Plane Mac utility A utility Chris uses to manage network traffic on his MacBook, unfortunately, it is no longer under active development
• Luna Display An app & adaptor that together turn an iPad into an external display for a macOS
• Bose QuietComfort 35 Chris’ go to headphones when travelling
• Nexus Card
• HS-NY Lectures Video lectures from the Horological Society of New York
• Clickspring YouTube Channel
• Reconstructing The Antikythera Mechanism A preview of the Antikythera project by Clickspring on YouTube
• The Perfectionists A book about humankind’s relentless pursuit of perfection & the compounding effects it has had on society
• Creative Selection
  Written by a former Apple software engineer, Creative Selection provides a rare glimpse into what the design process was like at Apple when Steve Jobs was alive
• Why We Sleep A book Jon’s been reading recently about the science & benefits of sleep

Chris has just returned from a conference on ornamental turning. He and Jon discuss the difference between ornamental turning and engine turning, along with some of the other things Chris got up to while out on the West Coast.

• OTI Symposium Chris just got back from the 2018 Ornamental Turners International Symposium in Seattle, Washington
• Guilloché on Off Hours We touched on guilloché work & engine turning quite a bit right off the bat, in Episode 1 of Off Hours
• History of Ornamental Turning

• Guilloché & Bank Notes An addendum to Wired Magazine’s ‘Future of Money’
• Excentro A Mac app for designing guilloché patterns
• Ornamental Mill Although they are no longer in production, these are the types of ornamental mills Chris alluded to when discussing large, ornamental wood pillars
• John Harrison’s Wooden Clocks A video about John Harrison’s wood clocks (part 2)

• Mopane Wood
• African Blackwood
• Lignum Vitae
• English Boxwood

• Singapore Balls Singapore Balls crafted by Wes Pilley
• Brian Jackson’s Ornamental Boxes
• Nested 3D Prints Some examples of nested 3D prints by George W. Hart, with .stl source files
• Double-Sided Bracelet David Fletcher’s paper for the 2018 Sante Fe Symposium details a fused bracelet 3D printed in 2 metals by Cooksongold

• Fringe Element Chris described the fused metal bracelet created by Cooksongold in greater detail back in Episode 18
• Mixed Metals Jon & Chris discussed Bob Kramer’s use of Damascus steel in Episode 7 of Off Hours
• Chris Ploof Friend of the show, Chris Ploof, specializes in working with Damascus
• James Binnion Friend of the show, Jim Binnion, specializes in mokume-gane
• Bob Kramer Maker of fine knives, hand crafted from Damascus steel
• LMT Patterned Metals Producers of Damascus and mokume-gane, operated by Chris Ploof & James Binnion
• Brittany Nicole Cox Official website of antiquarian horologist, Brittany Nicole Cox
• Smoking Bellows in Automata Brittany Nicole Cox’s talk for the Horological Society of New York, on horological conservation & materials for bellows in smoking automata
• Conservation vs. Restoration An overview of conservation versus restoration
• Ted Crom Books Chris picked up a copy of Crom’s Horological and Other Shop Tools while in Seattle
• Speake-Marin on WatchesTV A look at a collection of antique watchmakers’ tools with Peter Speake-Marin
• Watchmakers The Masters of Art Horology Another book Chris picked up recently that catalogues the work of modern independent watchmakers
• 12 Faces of Time Similar subject matter to the Masters of Art Horology, 12 Faces of Time details the lives and works of a dozen of the foremost independent watchmakers of our era
• CNC presentation Chris will be giving a presentation on October 23^rd alongside friend of the show, Rich Loen, outlining everything you need to know to build your own CNC machine

Chris is back from the British Horological Institute, where he spent a week working on watch movements. He and Jon chat about his time in the UK, the unique things he saw, and the incredible people he met along the way.

• BHI Short Courses Short watch & clock making courses offered by the British Horological Institute
• John Murphy Official website of John Murphy (FBHI, Cert. Ed., WOSTEP) who trained Chris at the British Horological Institute
• ETA 6497
• ETA 2824
• Incabloc A cross-section of Incabloc’s anti-shock system, designed to protect delicate pivots in mechanical watches

• Hamilton 992
• Upton Village The small, English village that Chris called home for much of the time between this episode & last
• Upton Hall Headquarters of the British Horological Institute
• Museum of Timekeeping The BHI museum at Upton Hall
• Santa Fe Symposium An annual conference for professionals in jewellery & related industries
• Museum of the jewellery quarter A perfectly preserved workshop in Birmingham’s Jewellery Quarter.
• Birmingham, UK
• Frank Cooper Senior lecturer at Birmingham City University’s School of Jewellery
• David Fletcher A brief introduction to 3D printing in precious metal, from David Fletcher of Cooksongold
• Cooksongold A pioneer in additive manufacturing & one of the UK’s leading suppliers to the jewellery trade
• Rio Grande Akin to Cooksongold, Rio Grande is of the USA’s leading suppliers to the jewellery trade
• 3D Printed Watch Case Michiel Holthinrichs’ watch cases for the Ornament 1 are 3D printed by Cooksongold

• Struthers London Struthers London began making timepieces from antique, English made calibers, before branching off into creating their in-house Project 248 caliber
• Deakin & Francis Located in the same building as the Struthers, this high end cufflink maker is England’s oldest family jeweller
• Yard-O-Led One of the Struthers’ newest neighbors is high end penmaker, Yard-O-Led, who we spoke about back in Episode 1 of Off Hours
• British Museum
• Bonhams Clock Exhibit A historic clock exhibit, entitled Innovation & Collaboration, hosted by Bonhams in London

• Innovation & Collaboration Book Direct link to the catalogue of the Bonhams exhibit
• @thewatchnerd Mat, the #watchnerd, on Twitter
• The #watchnerd Blog
• Chris Mann Chris Mann, founder of Time 4A Pint, on Twitter
• Time 4A Pint Official website for Time 4A Pint
• A Mechanician Seth Kennedy, on Twitter
• Seth Kennedy Talented restorer of fine timepieces & professional, antiquarian horologist, based in London
• The Joy of Tangents Episode 19 of Time 4A Pint, with Mat a.k.a. The Watchnerd
• English Pocket Watches Episode 41 of Time 4A Pint, with Seth Kennedy
• Refounding Fears Watches Episode 44 of Time 4A Pint, with Fears Watch founder, Nicholas Bowman-Scargill

• Omega 2211 An Omega caliber based on the ETA 6498, with alternative bridge layout
• Sea-Gull ST36 An Asian take on the ETA 6498, with yet another variation on the bridge layout

Chris’ first watch is taking shape. He and Jon chat through some of the process so far and where things may go from here.

• Mia Sable A saddlery maker who has branched out into making watch straps in recent years
• Shell Cordovan Leather A durable leather made from horse hides
• Moose Leather
• Horween An American firm with a strong reputation for making quality leather
• Apple Watch Link Bracelet
• Crabyon Antibacterial fabric made from crab shells
• Mycoworks Mushroom leather
• Royal Doak An example of one of Alex Doak’s hand drawn watches
• Gerald Genta The designer behind Audemars Piguet’s Royal Oak
• Nylon Gaskets Chris ordered the crystal gaskets for his first watch from Cousins, in the UK
• Coin Edge Case An example of a classically styled Breguet case with a coin edge

• Voutilainen 217QRS THG A limited edition, gold dialed version of Kari Voutilainen’s 217QRS Retrograde Date, for the Hour Glass in Singapore
• Peter Gilroy A jeweller specializing in the use of niobium, titanium, & gold, whose work is inspired by the great outdoors
• Spot Anodizing How to spot anodize niobium & titanium
• Zirconium Decay ⁹⁵Niobium is the decay product of ⁹⁵Zirconium
• Spontaneous Combustion Zirconium is considered a pyrophoric metal, making it susceptible to spontaneous combustion

Jon and Chris discuss follow up books to read, tricks for beating the Vatican hoards, letter press documentaries, and canes that aren’t quite what they appear to be.

• The Perfectionists A new book by Simon Winchester we discussed last episode, which traces the impact that ever increasing levels of accuracy have had on our world

• Michelangelo and the Pope’s Ceiling A book by Ross King

• Brunelleschi’s Dome
Another book by Ross King about a literal Renaissance Man who reinvented architecture

• Sistine Chapel

• Taj Mahal

• Michelangelo’s David The original David, sculpted by Michelangelo, located in the Accademia Gallery of Florence

• The Uffizi Gallery

• Pressing On Film A documentary about letterpress printing in the modern age

• Linotype Film A more thorough & informative film on the subject of letterpress

• Making Faces Film A documentary about fellow Canadian Jim Rimmer’s quest to release a new type design both digitally & in the metal at the same time

• Walbaum Font Family A typeface first created by Justus Walbaum, circa 1800, remastered for the digital age and released in 2018 by Charles Nix, Carl Crossgrove, Juan Villanueva, and Lynne Yun,

• Canes A selection of unusual & rare antique canes

• Faberge Cigarette Case An example of a Faberge cigarette case, from the British Royal Collection

• Watchmaker’s Swiss Army Knife A video demonstration of the (now discontinued) Minathor 50 Swiss Army Knife for watchmakers

• Rams Documentary A soon to be released documentary about the legendary industrial designer, Dieter Rams

• Rams Interview The panel discussion with Dieter Rams that Jon referred to

• Rams’ Cane A photo of Dieter Rams with his cane

• Watch Cane French jewelled gold watch cane

• Patek Desk Clock An example of a ornamental desk clock produced by Patek Philippe

• Ornamental Turning An introduction to ornamental turning from the Society of Ornamental Turners

• Medici Ivories

Precision, accuracy, and a smattering of etymology. Chris and Jon discuss Simon Winchester’s latest book, The Perfectionists.

• The Perfectionists A new book that traces the impact that ever increasing levels of accuracy have had on our world, from the industrial revolution, through to the digital age

• Ned Ludd An English weaver, from whom the term “luddite” was derived

• Bokeh The blur that occurs when an object within a photograph does not fall inside the bounds of the lens’s depth of field

• Leica The camera division of Germany’s Leica Microsystems

• The Essentials of Precision Timekeeping A talk delivered by Jack Forster at the Horological Society of New York in early 2018

• Bullseye Diagram A visual depiction of the distinction between accuracy & precision, from Winchester’s The Perfectionists, where A is accurate, B is precise, C is neither, & D
is moderately precise & accurate

• History of the Steam Engine A brief history of steam power during the Industrial Revolution

• Watt Engine Friend of the show, Rich Loen, standing in front of a Watt Steam Engine

• John Wilkinson An industrialist who helped James Watt refine the Watt Steam Engine

• Henry Maudslay An incredibly talented machinist, whose work helped usher in the age of industrialization

• Joseph Bramah A renowned locksmith & inventor

• Off Hours Episode 21 The episode on multi lead threading, where we first mentioned Bramah & Maudslay

• The Lord Chancellor A micrometer that was one of, if not the most, precise measuring instrument of Maudslay’s era, crafted by Maudslay himself

• Cromwell Lathe A style of lathe that Chris has in his shop, which was favoured by Rolls-Royce in the mid 20th century

• Rolls-Royce Casting A look at how lost wax casting continues to be used today in the manufacturing of Rolls-Royce turbine engines

• Off Hours Episode 3 An early episode in which we delved into the subject of lost wax casting

• Additive Manufacturing TheWatches TV takes a look at the potential promise additive manufacturing holds, while not shying away from the ways it still falls short of the accuracy needed for crafting timepieces

• Rolls-Royce Swarm Bots Rolls-Royce is investing in tiny, collaborative swarm robots to help provide quality assurance & routine maintenance of its jet turbines, without needing to take them completely apart

• Qantas Flight 32 An airline crash, detailed in The Perfectionists that was found to be due to error in how accurately a particular hole had been drilled

• Grand Seiko Official website of the Shizuku-Ishi studio in Japan, where Grand Seiko timepieces are assembled

Jon and Chris talk about buying art, stone carving, and managing notifications without a wearable.

• Adam Young – A Canadian artist that Jon & his wife recently acquired a painting from

• Steven Strang – Local artist & friend of the show whose work Chris has been a longstanding patron of

• ‘The Memory Thief’ – Chris’ most recent acquisition from Steven Strang

• Printrbot Ceases Operations – We spoke a little about Printrbot back in Episode 15, they recently & suddenly shut down

• Monoprice Select Mini – The 3D printer Jon picked up to replace his Printrbot Play

• Dufour’s Watch Cases – Philippe Dufour fits the movements for the cases of his timepieces to within 0.01mm of precision

• Canadian Stone Carving Festival – An annual festival held on Sparks Street in Canada’s Capital

• Phil White – The Dominion Sculptor of Canada

• Stone Carving Course – A stone carving course offered by Smith & Barber in Ottawa

• Cortex – Myke recently switched out his Apple Watch for a Nomos

• Metro Date Power Reserve – The Nomos that Myke picked up

• BBC Panorama – BBC’s Hilary Andersson investigates the ‘dark side’ of smartphones—including the physiological effects that notification alerts have on us

• Custom Vibration Alerts – How to create & customize vibration alerts on your iPhone

Turns out there’s more than one way to thread a screw. Chris talks to Jon about the upsides and challenges of crafting multi lead threads for his pens, and why you should use metric—not imperial—measures.

• Jessica Edwards The Producer of the documentary film, Design Canada & founder of Film First Co.

• Timely Tees Jon recently released a co-axial version of the Escape Tee

• Multi Lead Threading One of Chris’ most popular blog posts

• The Machinery’s Handbook A quintessential reference in any machine shop

• The Sheaffer Snorkel A stupendously over-engineered fountain pen design

• Fischer Space Pen A pen engineered for use in zero gravity

• David Oscarson Pens

• Dykem Layout Fluid A surface masking solution that makes it easier to see where the tool you’re using has come into contact with the material you are working on

• Taig Lathe One of the first lathes in Chris’ n+1 collection of lathes

• The Perfectionists A book, by Simon Winchester, that details the history of precision manufacturing

• Archimedes Screw

• Logan Lathe The lathe Chris upgraded to from the Taig

• Higbee Thread

• Breech Thread

• Follower Thread Cutting A video demonstrating how threads are cut using a follow rest

• Hello internet A podcast hosted by CGP Grey & Brady Haran

• Demise of the Kilogram A video produced by Hello Internet co-star, Brady Haran, that explores how the way we define various units of measurement is changing

• Veritasium Derek Muller goes hands-on with the world’s roundest object, a sphere of silicon used as the definitive standard of a kilogram

• Veritasium Redux A follow up to the previous video, Derek Muller ventures deep into the National Institute of Standards & Technology to discover how science is redefining the kilogram & rendering that perfect sphere of silicon effectively obsolete

It was Canada Day this past weekend. This may get a little patriotic. Sorry.

Helvetica
A documentary detailing the origin & ubiquity of the typeface Helvetica
amazon.com

Design Canada
A documentary on Canadian design that Jon was able to catch an early screening of
designcanada.com

Canadian Flag
A visual history of the Canadian flag, courtesy of Wikipedia
wikipedia.org

Canada Wordmark
Official guidelines for the Canada wordmark
canada.ca

Massimo Vignelli
“If you can design one thing, you can design everything.”
wikipedia.org

CN Logo
A look back through the identity design of Canadian National Railway
logodesignlove.com

Ontario Logo
The former logo of the Ontario Government
preserve.northernarmy.com

Olympic Logo
Official logo for the 1976 Olympics in Montreal
preserve.northernarmy.com

1972 team Canada hockey jersey
Looking back on the design of the Team Canada hockey jersey, created for the 1972 Summit Series, by John Lloyd
nationalpost.com

Heather Cooper
Designer of the Roots logo, alongside other iconic Canadian logos & illustrations
designedgecanada.com

Rams
A forthcoming documentary exploring the life & work of the legendary, German designer, Dieter Rams
kickstarter.com

Jon Klassen
Canadian author & illustrator who helped fund Design Canada, his book I Want My Hat Back is a favourite in the Edwards’ household
amazon.com

Julie Kraulis
Another Canadian children’s book author & illustrator who has recently made a splash on the watch scene with her incredible, large scale pencil drawings of iconic timepieces
instagram.com

Concepts 5.0 iPad
A sketching app that Chris has been using on his iPad Pro
itunes.apple.com

Patek Desk Clock
An example of one of the many ornate desk clocks produced by Patek Philippe
patek.com

Jon and Chris chat a little more about the Santa Fe speakers’ trip, the closure of OSU’s watchmaking program, and the potential upsides of augmenting reality.

ABQ Jewellery Exhibit
Chris got a sneak preview of the new jewellery exhibit at ABQ
cabq.gov

Closure of OSU
Oklahoma State University’s Watchmaking Program is slated to close
hs-ny.org

Wit Jarochowski
Wit Jarochowski’s 1991 patent for a mechanically driven electromagnetic escapement
patents.google.com

WOSTEP
The Watchmakers of Switzerland Training and Education Program
wostep.ch

SAWTA
The Swiss American Watchmakers Training Alliance
sawtacertification.org

X1T Wireless Earbuds
The Bluetooth earbuds Jon started using recently
amazon.com

S530 Wireless Earbud
The Bluetooth earbuds Jon mentioned back in Episode 6
amazon.com

Apple AirPods
Apple’s wireless earbuds
amazon.com

BeatsX
A longer lasting, harder to lose take on the W1 chip powering Apple’s AirPods
amazon.com

Apple Watch
The Apple Watch has built in controls for wirelessly controlling audio & will support background audio playback in WatchOS 5
amazon.com

Garmin Fenix
Smartwatches like the Garmin Fenix also support audio control over Bluetooth
amazon.com

Overcast
An excellent podcast player for iOS, by Marco Arment
overcast.fm

ATP
The Accidental Tech Podcast, co-hosted by Marco Arment who develops Overcast
atp.fm

Apple HomePod
Apple’s HomePod was just released in Canada at the time this episode was published
apple.com

IKEA Place
An app that leverages Apple’s ARKit to see what various pieces of IKEA furniture would look like in your space
itunes.apple.com

Yelp Easter egg
One of the first AR experiences to pop up on the iPhone
wired.com

Starmap
Turns your phone into a viewfinder to identify the constellations overhead
itunes.apple.com

Head Mounted Display
Jon attempted to use a Teleglass T3-F from Japanese firm, Scalar, as a digital loupe several years ago
scalar.co.jp

Chris just returned home from the Santa Fe Symposium where he delivered a talk on modern niello. He and Jon talk about this year’s talks and some of the things Chris got up to while in New Mexico.

Bricolage Podcast
Official Twitter account of the Bricolage Podcast
twitter.com

Santa Fe Symposium
An annual gathering of leading experts in the jewelry industry
santafesymposium.org

An Introduction to Niello
Chris’ first paper on niello, presented at the Santa Fe Symposium
santafesymposium.org

Niello for the Modern Jeweler
The paper that Chris presented at this year’s Santa Fe Symposium
santafesymposium.org

Substitutes for Lead
Indium, gallium, bismuth, & tin—the four elements that Chris has been experimenting with, to eliminate lead from niello
offhours.show

2018 Santa Fe Papers
All of the papers presented at this year’s Santa Fe Symposium
santafesymposium.org

Fused Bracelet
A two-tone, gold bracelet that was 3D printed as a single object, presented by David Fletcher, of Cooksongold, at the 2018 Santa Fe Symposium
santafesymposium.org

Matt Anderson
Official site of artist & maker Matt Anderson
andersonart4all.com

Los Poblanos Inn
The inn where Chris & other presenters at this year’s Santa Fe Symposium stayed
lospoblanos.com

Meow Wolf
An immersive art experience
meowwolf.com

Sandia Peak
Part of a mountain range east of Albuquerque in New Mexico
en.wikipedia.org

Eddie Bell
Eddie Bell discusses the value of the Sante Fe Symposium
youtube.com

Armbruster SN 1
Eddie’s Armbruster SN 1 ornamental lathe
instagram.com

The Toolbox Initiative
An initiative to bring tools to jewelers in West Africa
youtube.com

French Elephant Award
Chris was awarded the French Elephant at this year’s Santa Fe Symposium
instagram.com

Steel Bender Brewery
The source of the secret word for the speakers at this year’s Santa Fe Symposium
steelbenderbrewyard.com